http://stableking.nofeeforum.com/feed/? Latest topics Thu, 04 Mar 2010 23:57:48 GMT 10 http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/Horsemen_/tea_party_end.jpg http://stableking.nofeeforum.com/feed/? http://stableking.nofeeforum.com/stableking-f1/new-automatic-entry-system-t51.htm rod ON March 1 I noticed a new system for automatic entry of horses . I decided to try it.....BIG mistake. When I came back to Stableking on March 3rd I discovered much to my horror that My horse Conor Lad had been entered in 42 races and amassed entry fees of approximately 73 million dollars. I think this is highly unfair . Stableking should have checked this "new " thing out considerably more before starting it up. My horse had been entered 8 times prior to this and had been in the ... StableKing Thu, 04 Mar 2010 23:57:48 GMT http://stableking.nofeeforum.com/stableking-f1/new-automatic-entry-system-t51.htm#232 http://stableking.nofeeforum.com/stableking-f1/new-automatic-entry-system-t51.htm http://stableking.nofeeforum.com/main-chat-f3/nation-s-cup-t50.htm kysupercat
Apparently, South Korea has won all but one Nations Cup month since May 2009 and they only have one member.

Are these races even worth participating?]]> Main Chat Thu, 11 Feb 2010 08:16:30 GMT http://stableking.nofeeforum.com/main-chat-f3/nation-s-cup-t50.htm#231 http://stableking.nofeeforum.com/main-chat-f3/nation-s-cup-t50.htm http://stableking.nofeeforum.com/main-chat-f3/breeding-not-possible-t49.htm kysupercat
"BREEDING NOT POSSIBLE - Horse is in another game group."

What does this mean and what constitutes a "game group"?

Thanks!]]> Main Chat Thu, 11 Feb 2010 08:08:39 GMT http://stableking.nofeeforum.com/main-chat-f3/breeding-not-possible-t49.htm#230 http://stableking.nofeeforum.com/main-chat-f3/breeding-not-possible-t49.htm http://stableking.nofeeforum.com/main-chat-f3/hotmail-t40.htm Poulton parkerm8@hotmail.co.uk if not email it, still play sk ]]> Main Chat Wed, 10 Sep 2008 15:15:18 GMT http://stableking.nofeeforum.com/main-chat-f3/hotmail-t40.htm#181 http://stableking.nofeeforum.com/main-chat-f3/hotmail-t40.htm http://stableking.nofeeforum.com/help-f6/newbie-question-t47.htm brunoblack I have recently returned after a three year lapse. The one thing I noticed is that the game has change alot and there are NO messages on these boards as we had perhaps three years ago. I have some questions: What are do these abbrivations stand for: (HS), TRS, SR number, PR number, and the number after the name of the horse, for example 0-60. Also how many days rest does a horse need in between races and is there a health/staima indicator. And the last question, is it best ... Help Sun, 06 Dec 2009 19:25:28 GMT http://stableking.nofeeforum.com/help-f6/newbie-question-t47.htm#224 http://stableking.nofeeforum.com/help-f6/newbie-question-t47.htm http://stableking.nofeeforum.com/main-chat-f3/hello-just-joined-a-couple-of-days-ago-t48.htm Nemesis
Look forward to making new friends here!

Kris]]> Main Chat Mon, 14 Dec 2009 01:48:15 GMT http://stableking.nofeeforum.com/main-chat-f3/hello-just-joined-a-couple-of-days-ago-t48.htm#227 http://stableking.nofeeforum.com/main-chat-f3/hello-just-joined-a-couple-of-days-ago-t48.htm http://stableking.nofeeforum.com/stableking-f1/welcome-t1.htm FourHorsemen
Thanks for registering and i hope you all enjoy your time in these forums

Four]]> StableKing Sat, 16 Jun 2007 13:18:09 GMT http://stableking.nofeeforum.com/stableking-f1/welcome-t1.htm#1 http://stableking.nofeeforum.com/stableking-f1/welcome-t1.htm http://stableking.nofeeforum.com/help-f6/race-instructions-t23.htm Sol
Does enyone know, why the game works so...? ]]> Help Wed, 29 Aug 2007 08:19:13 GMT http://stableking.nofeeforum.com/help-f6/race-instructions-t23.htm#86 http://stableking.nofeeforum.com/help-f6/race-instructions-t23.htm http://stableking.nofeeforum.com/stableking-f1/taking-horses-from-the-sale-t46.htm yatski
There is button, but clicking it doesn't remove anything even you've selected horse.]]> StableKing Wed, 06 May 2009 11:42:42 GMT http://stableking.nofeeforum.com/stableking-f1/taking-horses-from-the-sale-t46.htm#221 http://stableking.nofeeforum.com/stableking-f1/taking-horses-from-the-sale-t46.htm http://stableking.nofeeforum.com/main-chat-f3/heroes-is-back-on-t45.htm trev my msn is tfd1977@live.co.uk if you wanna add me]]> Main Chat Mon, 13 Apr 2009 15:07:58 GMT http://stableking.nofeeforum.com/main-chat-f3/heroes-is-back-on-t45.htm#219 http://stableking.nofeeforum.com/main-chat-f3/heroes-is-back-on-t45.htm http://stableking.nofeeforum.com/main-chat-f3/mutiple-stables-t44.htm danj22 can anyone send me a link
please help
i have 50 horses and 15 jockeys in my stable]]> Main Chat Thu, 09 Apr 2009 11:29:41 GMT http://stableking.nofeeforum.com/main-chat-f3/mutiple-stables-t44.htm#217 http://stableking.nofeeforum.com/main-chat-f3/mutiple-stables-t44.htm http://stableking.nofeeforum.com/stableking-f1/breeding-t43.htm rod I have a Question.If some one could answer it I would appreciate it. The Home page of StableKing states that you can sell or breed regardless of which group you belong to, but this does not happen .Why? StableKing Sat, 13 Dec 2008 23:33:28 GMT http://stableking.nofeeforum.com/stableking-f1/breeding-t43.htm#207 http://stableking.nofeeforum.com/stableking-f1/breeding-t43.htm http://stableking.nofeeforum.com/off-site-stuff-f5/other-stuff-t6.htm FourHorsemen
Thanks]]> Off Site Stuff Sat, 16 Jun 2007 13:32:04 GMT http://stableking.nofeeforum.com/off-site-stuff-f5/other-stuff-t6.htm#6 http://stableking.nofeeforum.com/off-site-stuff-f5/other-stuff-t6.htm http://stableking.nofeeforum.com/help-f6/help-t4.htm FourHorsemen If you require help with anything from training to choosing a jocky or the creation of horses please post here. Help Sat, 16 Jun 2007 13:27:50 GMT http://stableking.nofeeforum.com/help-f6/help-t4.htm#4 http://stableking.nofeeforum.com/help-f6/help-t4.htm http://stableking.nofeeforum.com/main-chat-f3/haha-t42.htm Poulton nice to hear back from any of you.

Martin]]> Main Chat Wed, 10 Sep 2008 16:00:58 GMT http://stableking.nofeeforum.com/main-chat-f3/haha-t42.htm#193 http://stableking.nofeeforum.com/main-chat-f3/haha-t42.htm http://stableking.nofeeforum.com/auction-f4/stable-clearout-all-4-sale-t25.htm JayJay My Stable (The Winning Trophy Farm) is selling all horses and are all on the market. If you want any you can chat to me if you wanna drop prices , but all are cheap anyway cos i wanna get rid of them. I have 20 horses in my stable for sale, All horses are young, mostly unraced and neva bred, Most are 5,6 & 7f sprinters, With performance ratings between 40 & 60. Also my other stable (Speedy Racers Stud) wants to sell: Mr X Use da Dictionary Dummy Thnx For The Memories Never ... Auction Wed, 03 Oct 2007 04:54:52 GMT http://stableking.nofeeforum.com/auction-f4/stable-clearout-all-4-sale-t25.htm#93 http://stableking.nofeeforum.com/auction-f4/stable-clearout-all-4-sale-t25.htm http://stableking.nofeeforum.com/auction-f4/good-horse-for-sale-unraced-74-pr-t26.htm new hope stables Heyya this horses will bve amazing .. brilliant for any body who is new or is looking for a 16-17f horse Ground 1f 2f 3f 4f 5f 6f 7f 8f 9f 10f 11f 12f 13f 14f 15f 16f 17f 18f 19f 20f 21f 22f 23f 24f Hard 11.9 12.2 12.2 12.2 12.2 12.2 12.2 12.3 12.4 12.4 12.5 12.6 12.6 12.6 12.8 12.9 12.9 13.0 13.0 13.2 13.3 13.4 13.5 13.5 Firm 11.4 11.8 11.8 11.8 11.8 11.8 11.8 11.9 11.9 12.0 12.1 12.1 12.1 12.2 12.3 12.4 12.4 12.5 12.6 12.7 12.9 13.0 13.0 13.1 Good 10.9 11.2 11.2 11.2 11.2 11.2 11.2 ... Auction Sat, 08 Dec 2007 15:09:02 GMT http://stableking.nofeeforum.com/auction-f4/good-horse-for-sale-unraced-74-pr-t26.htm#102 http://stableking.nofeeforum.com/auction-f4/good-horse-for-sale-unraced-74-pr-t26.htm http://stableking.nofeeforum.com/ideas-f9/sk-t41.htm Poulton For sk bring back the old stuff and crete a training grounnd Ideas Wed, 10 Sep 2008 15:54:23 GMT http://stableking.nofeeforum.com/ideas-f9/sk-t41.htm#190 http://stableking.nofeeforum.com/ideas-f9/sk-t41.htm http://stableking.nofeeforum.com/music-games-videos-f10/music-player-t10.htm FourHorsemen Music, Games, Videos Sun, 17 Jun 2007 17:11:36 GMT http://stableking.nofeeforum.com/music-games-videos-f10/music-player-t10.htm#11 http://stableking.nofeeforum.com/music-games-videos-f10/music-player-t10.htm http://stableking.nofeeforum.com/off-site-stuff-f5/batracer-t8.htm Anonymous ne1 play this fantastic car racing game ? Off Site Stuff Sat, 16 Jun 2007 19:23:01 GMT http://stableking.nofeeforum.com/off-site-stuff-f5/batracer-t8.htm#8 http://stableking.nofeeforum.com/off-site-stuff-f5/batracer-t8.htm http://stableking.nofeeforum.com/help-f6/betting-t37.htm willowbrooke Whenever I win bets, it doesn't seem to add the HS to my account. Help Mon, 09 Jun 2008 22:14:21 GMT http://stableking.nofeeforum.com/help-f6/betting-t37.htm#157 http://stableking.nofeeforum.com/help-f6/betting-t37.htm http://stableking.nofeeforum.com/help-f6/so-stupid-question-t36.htm yatski
The question that nags me:

Do I need to click "Auto train" to train my horse or does the game train my horse after I've set training...?

Plus, does it train it more than 21% over time..]]> Help Sun, 04 May 2008 08:20:31 GMT http://stableking.nofeeforum.com/help-f6/so-stupid-question-t36.htm#153 http://stableking.nofeeforum.com/help-f6/so-stupid-question-t36.htm http://stableking.nofeeforum.com/training-f11/training-help-t11.htm FourHorsemen
http://pic4.piczo.com/Stableking/?g=41127665&cr=4

Thanks Four]]> Training Mon, 18 Jun 2007 17:52:25 GMT http://stableking.nofeeforum.com/training-f11/training-help-t11.htm#14 http://stableking.nofeeforum.com/training-f11/training-help-t11.htm http://stableking.nofeeforum.com/news-f7/breaking-news-t5.htm FourHorsemen All news will be posted here so you can all be kept upto date with the latest SK Developements. News Sat, 16 Jun 2007 13:30:01 GMT http://stableking.nofeeforum.com/news-f7/breaking-news-t5.htm#5 http://stableking.nofeeforum.com/news-f7/breaking-news-t5.htm http://stableking.nofeeforum.com/main-chat-f3/ummmh-t15.htm Lilly Hi everyone! I was wondering if youd like to try a forum out.. Its not as good as this forum but I do belive its nice. Its needing some more traffic. If you cud just pop in once in a while Id be really greatful! Thanks -Lilly Whoops sorry http://www.boards2go.com/boards/board.cgi?&user=webmaster1 Main Chat Mon, 16 Jul 2007 17:54:32 GMT http://stableking.nofeeforum.com/main-chat-f3/ummmh-t15.htm#36 http://stableking.nofeeforum.com/main-chat-f3/ummmh-t15.htm http://stableking.nofeeforum.com/main-chat-f3/stableking-instant-chat-t7.htm FourHorsemen
http://pic4.piczo.com/Stableking/?g=41058115&cr=4]]> Main Chat Sat, 16 Jun 2007 18:01:46 GMT http://stableking.nofeeforum.com/main-chat-f3/stableking-instant-chat-t7.htm#7 http://stableking.nofeeforum.com/main-chat-f3/stableking-instant-chat-t7.htm http://stableking.nofeeforum.com/main-chat-f3/retiring-horses-t29.htm Ports Ive started a stable recently and have some nags I need to offload. I was unable to sell them for 1HS so I wanted to retire them. In the site help on stableking It says you can retire in HORSE FINANCE screen but I can not find the page as shown in the help instructions.

Any suggestions?

Thanks

ports.]]> Main Chat Sun, 27 Jan 2008 12:04:58 GMT http://stableking.nofeeforum.com/main-chat-f3/retiring-horses-t29.htm#132 http://stableking.nofeeforum.com/main-chat-f3/retiring-horses-t29.htm http://stableking.nofeeforum.com/main-chat-f3/hey-guys-t30.htm FSL (Dizzy Heights)
www.createforum.com/dizzyh

got 26 members in 4 days is going up nicely - i will answer any Qs u have]]> Main Chat Sun, 03 Feb 2008 01:27:50 GMT http://stableking.nofeeforum.com/main-chat-f3/hey-guys-t30.htm#140 http://stableking.nofeeforum.com/main-chat-f3/hey-guys-t30.htm http://stableking.nofeeforum.com/main-chat-f3/i-m-new-here-t31.htm Redwood Hi y'all, how is everybody doing ? I'm fine thanks. If any of you are sick with a cold or the flu, I hope you get to feeling better soon. There are a lot of nasty things floating through the air this time of year so, we all have to be careful as best we can. Well, again I am new here & just wanted to say hi. Y'all take care & I'll talk to U later. P.S. If what I said sounds stupid sorry, but I couldn't think of anything else to say right now. But I recon its better ... Main Chat Sat, 23 Feb 2008 05:18:35 GMT http://stableking.nofeeforum.com/main-chat-f3/i-m-new-here-t31.htm#141 http://stableking.nofeeforum.com/main-chat-f3/i-m-new-here-t31.htm http://stableking.nofeeforum.com/main-chat-f3/new-here-t32.htm Miss Frankenstein [scroll]Hey all, I'm new here. So far this site seems pretty good.]]> Main Chat Sun, 24 Feb 2008 03:38:35 GMT http://stableking.nofeeforum.com/main-chat-f3/new-here-t32.htm#143 http://stableking.nofeeforum.com/main-chat-f3/new-here-t32.htm http://stableking.nofeeforum.com/main-chat-f3/name-penalty-t34.htm Rockstar Stables I bread a horse and named it Taste Test.. now it has a Name Penalty in Red Letters next to it's name. What is this, and what effect will it have on the horse? thanks. Main Chat Wed, 12 Mar 2008 03:53:56 GMT http://stableking.nofeeforum.com/main-chat-f3/name-penalty-t34.htm#148 http://stableking.nofeeforum.com/main-chat-f3/name-penalty-t34.htm http://stableking.nofeeforum.com/main-chat-f3/re-general-chitchat-t33.htm Redwood Hey, The Four Horsemen nice site you have here, I like it, its purty good so far. Know what I mean Vern ?

P.S. I bet that blade is purty sharp "Huh". ]]> Main Chat Mon, 25 Feb 2008 02:00:43 GMT http://stableking.nofeeforum.com/main-chat-f3/re-general-chitchat-t33.htm#144 http://stableking.nofeeforum.com/main-chat-f3/re-general-chitchat-t33.htm http://stableking.nofeeforum.com/main-chat-f3/training-for-5k-s-t35.htm HorseSlave Hi Y'all, I was wondering if I could get some tips on how to train for shorter races. I have some really nice horse with low 10's in their early furlongs and they should be doing really well but I'm not quite getting the hang of it. Say you have a 5F race and your horse is 10.3 10.4 10.5 10.5 10.5 and his IS is comparable, should I use all 100 training points on those 5 furlongs or is 20 points a furlong too much? I'm doing pretty good in long races but would like to get competitive in 5F-10F's ... Main Chat Mon, 31 Mar 2008 16:52:08 GMT http://stableking.nofeeforum.com/main-chat-f3/training-for-5k-s-t35.htm#152 http://stableking.nofeeforum.com/main-chat-f3/training-for-5k-s-t35.htm http://stableking.nofeeforum.com/main-chat-f3/bhd-nz-t38.htm brewster24 BHD NZ what do these mean? Countrys? Groups? Main Chat Tue, 17 Jun 2008 15:09:02 GMT http://stableking.nofeeforum.com/main-chat-f3/bhd-nz-t38.htm#162 http://stableking.nofeeforum.com/main-chat-f3/bhd-nz-t38.htm http://stableking.nofeeforum.com/auction-f4/looking-for-horses-t39.htm mattgmattg123 hey im lookin for some sprinter 5-8 or some stayers 21 + i have 100's of billions to spend or will trade thanks Auction Sun, 22 Jun 2008 01:57:58 GMT http://stableking.nofeeforum.com/auction-f4/looking-for-horses-t39.htm#164 http://stableking.nofeeforum.com/auction-f4/looking-for-horses-t39.htm http://stableking.nofeeforum.com/auction-f4/horse-market-t3.htm FourHorsemen All horse sales must be used in this forum Thanks Auction Sat, 16 Jun 2007 13:21:39 GMT http://stableking.nofeeforum.com/auction-f4/horse-market-t3.htm#3 http://stableking.nofeeforum.com/auction-f4/horse-market-t3.htm http://stableking.nofeeforum.com/ideas-f9/ideas-t24.htm FourHorsemen
Four]]> Ideas Sun, 30 Sep 2007 10:53:39 GMT http://stableking.nofeeforum.com/ideas-f9/ideas-t24.htm#91 http://stableking.nofeeforum.com/ideas-f9/ideas-t24.htm http://stableking.nofeeforum.com/main-chat-f3/stableking-server-down-t14.htm Anonymous ]]> Main Chat Tue, 10 Jul 2007 22:11:15 GMT http://stableking.nofeeforum.com/main-chat-f3/stableking-server-down-t14.htm#31 http://stableking.nofeeforum.com/main-chat-f3/stableking-server-down-t14.htm http://stableking.nofeeforum.com/auction-f4/sale-t28.htm yukai_mewmew Want good horse with races left the you've come to the right place . Im selling alot of horse for low prices some horse have only races 16 races and won alot Im Crystel water stable feel free to look and make an offer on any horse. Im online everyday catch me when im online some horses for sale are Lyrical mastery. Blazing bailey II && Princess exvn but feel free to ask about any horse and i might sell it to you Auction Sat, 19 Jan 2008 20:47:06 GMT http://stableking.nofeeforum.com/auction-f4/sale-t28.htm#128 http://stableking.nofeeforum.com/auction-f4/sale-t28.htm http://stableking.nofeeforum.com/auction-f4/11-decent-starter-horses-on-the-market-100hs-each-t27.htm randysz Anything starting with RA and also a horse named CHI CHI. Most are breeds I don't need, and one was bought by accident, but is not bad. Auction Wed, 26 Dec 2007 07:00:09 GMT http://stableking.nofeeforum.com/auction-f4/11-decent-starter-horses-on-the-market-100hs-each-t27.htm#118 http://stableking.nofeeforum.com/auction-f4/11-decent-starter-horses-on-the-market-100hs-each-t27.htm http://stableking.nofeeforum.com/off-site-stuff-f5/ummh-two-real-life-horse-q-s-t19.htm Lilly 1st Q If a horse is pigen toed young but not lame or stumbleing, will it cause future issues when she gets older.

2nd the horse I want is a 4yr old regestered breeding stock paint. sorrel and shes calmest horse in the world (you can backflip off her) I like the name Bella Sarah (Italian and don know if spelled right lol) Well open to suggestions for other names!!
Thanks
Lilly]]> Off Site Stuff Mon, 30 Jul 2007 20:20:57 GMT http://stableking.nofeeforum.com/off-site-stuff-f5/ummh-two-real-life-horse-q-s-t19.htm#55 http://stableking.nofeeforum.com/off-site-stuff-f5/ummh-two-real-life-horse-q-s-t19.htm http://stableking.nofeeforum.com/help-f6/performance-ratings-t21.htm SaraKendall
I am a newbie to SK and I am totally lost LOL!

Sara]]> Help Sun, 12 Aug 2007 19:16:29 GMT http://stableking.nofeeforum.com/help-f6/performance-ratings-t21.htm#76 http://stableking.nofeeforum.com/help-f6/performance-ratings-t21.htm http://stableking.nofeeforum.com/auction-f4/looking-for-a-few-new-horses-t22.htm holmesracing
I'm looking for a couple 1st gen colts and fillies. I'm new to this site so i can't spend a whole bunch.

I currently have a for sale a stallion by the name of Rasta Men Prince he's won 56,690,400 in earnings, he does well in 18F, I prefer sprints so i'm putting him up for sale maybe a trade?

I also have a question for you vet's does generation breeding really improve the horse?]]> Auction Thu, 16 Aug 2007 05:40:20 GMT http://stableking.nofeeforum.com/auction-f4/looking-for-a-few-new-horses-t22.htm#78 http://stableking.nofeeforum.com/auction-f4/looking-for-a-few-new-horses-t22.htm http://stableking.nofeeforum.com/auction-f4/up-for-sale-t20.htm rickie7679 H=2097577#

i ran out of HS so i am in need of some asap


thnx TRIGGER]]> Auction Wed, 08 Aug 2007 09:26:36 GMT http://stableking.nofeeforum.com/auction-f4/up-for-sale-t20.htm#74 http://stableking.nofeeforum.com/auction-f4/up-for-sale-t20.htm http://stableking.nofeeforum.com/main-chat-f3/sk-to-return-t18.htm Anonymous Dear Stableking player I plan to make the game available again on Saturday 4th August. Since there would have been a month's break since the game was last running this seems a suitable opportunity to have a reset where all horses will be removed and the money amounts will be set the starting default. In addition to the reset I will turning the groups into a league. Every stable will start in Group 1 and then the top players of Group 1 at the end of the month will be moved into Group ... Main Chat Mon, 30 Jul 2007 09:37:12 GMT http://stableking.nofeeforum.com/main-chat-f3/sk-to-return-t18.htm#52 http://stableking.nofeeforum.com/main-chat-f3/sk-to-return-t18.htm http://stableking.nofeeforum.com/off-site-stuff-f5/does-anyone-know-of-any-horse-search-engines-t13.htm Lilly Hello All! Hey Right Now (real Life) Im looking for a horse. I was wondering if any one knew of any websites (other than horsetopia,horseville,webpony,and equinehits)???? Or maybe even if they had one in Ohio?! (looking 4 a paint horse, kid friendly, and one that trails lol. -Lilly Off Site Stuff Wed, 27 Jun 2007 13:02:12 GMT http://stableking.nofeeforum.com/off-site-stuff-f5/does-anyone-know-of-any-horse-search-engines-t13.htm#19 http://stableking.nofeeforum.com/off-site-stuff-f5/does-anyone-know-of-any-horse-search-engines-t13.htm http://stableking.nofeeforum.com/main-chat-f3/general-chit-chat-t2.htm FourHorsemen Please use this forum for all SK related talk Thanks Main Chat Sat, 16 Jun 2007 13:20:05 GMT http://stableking.nofeeforum.com/main-chat-f3/general-chit-chat-t2.htm#2 http://stableking.nofeeforum.com/main-chat-f3/general-chit-chat-t2.htm http://stableking.nofeeforum.com/news-f7/stableking-update-t16.htm FourHorsemen Dear Stableking player The game is currently unavailable because the hosting company were not happy with the workload on the database server to run the game. I have yet to determine the reason why this occurred but it is a sensitive issue with the hosting company because it affects other websites using the same database server. I am looking into two things regarding this issue. Firstly, what was the cause of the problem and secondly what are the alternatives to running the game as it ... News Mon, 16 Jul 2007 22:53:32 GMT http://stableking.nofeeforum.com/news-f7/stableking-update-t16.htm#38 http://stableking.nofeeforum.com/news-f7/stableking-update-t16.htm http://stableking.nofeeforum.com/ideas-f9/music-t9.htm FourHorsemen
Four]]> Ideas Sun, 17 Jun 2007 15:15:07 GMT http://stableking.nofeeforum.com/ideas-f9/music-t9.htm#10 http://stableking.nofeeforum.com/ideas-f9/music-t9.htm